I am 1st year student of
uptu,having good chances
to score max marks in college
,preparing for dce,delhi.Am
i doing right.I am really very
confused.
feel free to advice me at aru_mobile@rediffmail.com

Dear Yogesh
Is IT BHU in IIT conversion race . I believe if there are three IITs , then they should be IT BHU, NIT Trichy and BITS Pilani(if possible)

hi to all
in a recent article in indian express it has been revealed that one of the institutes for sure is nit trichy which is going to become an iit
ur institute does not get a mention there so please don't feel disappointed u might get the chance in the next century
wish u all the best for that
by the way all cheera for NIT TRICHY

Infosys Technologies Limited has taken an excellent initiative to develop Industry-Institute Partnership.
I request the editor of ITBHU.org website to put the link of registration on the main page and motivate current students and faculty members to register on that.
http://campusconnect.infosys.com/login.aspx?tab=1

Abhijeet

Dear Alum:

Thanks for your info about article in Outlook India. The information provided in the article (by Poornima Joshi) is accurate.

1) For govt. setting up IIT abroad, please also read an article in Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/963519.cms). Initially, IITs were reluctant to set up branches abroad, as it would have allowed other foreign universities to set up branches in India, which could have resulted in flight of faculty & students from IITs. Now, it seems that IIT may start post-graduate programs in Singapore due to political pressure exerted by that govt.

2) For govt. setting up IITs in India, the process is very slow. Due to pressures exerted by state govts. & business groups, govt. may setup 2 or 3 IITs (instead of 7 planned earlier) by converting existing institutes. There are 3 institutes (from the original 5 selected by the former govt.) –one each from north, north-west and south India- in the race. The IIT Selection Committee has been restructured lately, and committee’s recommendation shall not be available immediately to the public.

3) Our alumni volunteers and IT administration are in constant touch with authorities (HRD ministry, IIT Board & Selection Committee). We shall provide any update, as soon as it is available.

Yogesh Upadhyaya
Chem77

About the IIT expansion, this is what I found at www.oultookindia.com --- It says the institute selection report should be out this monnth.

"Former prime minister A.B. Vajpayee had made a commitment to upgrade five technical institutes to the IIT-level in August 2003. A committee, headed by Prof S. K. Joshi of IIT Roorkee, was set up to assess various institutions and suggest which ones can come up to the IIT standard.

This report is awaited by this month-end. But the present view in the HRD ministry is to go "very slow" on any expansion plans for IITs. "The proposal with Singapore has been finalised after great deliberation. We do not want IITs to lose their prestige by huge expansions. First, we should concentrate on preserving the prestige, tackle problems like the lack of teaching faculty and then think about expanding the brand," says an official."

First of all, I'm a student of NIT.
I seriously feel that the argument of IT-BHU > NIT or NIT > IT-BHU is a childish one......
I admit that all NITs are not at par even with IT-BHU. I seriously feel, that along with IT-BHU, the top NITs which may become IITs are:
NIT Surathkal and NIT Warangal. NIT Trichy is
also as deserving as IT-BHU but may loose out because of IIT Madras being in that state!!!
So I wish all ITians and NITians best of luck....
Best of luck for your exams!!!

As someone Manish has said that when one joins a software industry there are ppl from all engineering colleges not only from IIT or NIT or IT-BHU.
This is true but i have seen
IITian-NITian-ITians lack original thinking or ideas i.e they are least qualified to lead stuff involving innovative thinking ,however in daily mundane software stuff they do well.

hi!
i am getting adm. in nit bhopal in civil engg. , i wanted to know about institutes reputation and your wise advice . iam also getting mech. in army institute of technology (pune university) . could u please mail your kind advice to "sr1454@hotmail.com"
THANK YOU.

Thanks Animesh and Sanjay.
Work done by people behind this site is commendable.
Let us all support them to achieve our goal of Global Mutual Cooperation between the ITBHU Alumni, instead of bothering about what others say.
Himanshu Bhalla
CSE03

Thank you for the post, Animesh. Quite likely
"TO MODERATORS" is another poser. An ITBHU
alumnus would have proudly given his/her name
and made a constructive suggestion/offer of
help. Keep up the good work!

Hi all,
Regarding the post to moderators about the "cr**" which has not been deleted from the site, this is what I have to say:
a) We have been deleting stuff periodically but once in a while it does get a bit out of hand.
b) If you feel strongly about the website and feel that it is doing good work, please visit the Volunteer link on the top and join us. We always welcome more hands!
c) Could we please use some decent language here.
d) Kanika, we do not have control over the way google indexes its search. I can only hope that we can end this flame war and mind our own businesses.
Happy holi to all!
Animesh Pathak CSE03
Member, ITBHU.org working group

Guys is there a way that our page is not listed in googles cache because whenever someone searches for NIT-IIT itbhu.org is returned and we should try that this is not done so that these bloody NITs are kept away from our side

moderators, if you are too lazy to delete all the crap posted on this website, then please pass on the reponsibility to someone else. If you moderate an IT-BHU website, then you are answerable to all IT-BHU students. Please take action or delegate the responsibilty. don't sit and watch.

DCE is a good college, but since there is already an IIT in Delhi, it is not possible for DCE to be an IIT.

hi guys
wat do u guyz think about dce(delhi college of engineering)??it is not bad institute.can it be one of future iits??

Hi,
Its really sad that almost 90% of the comments posted here are about the IT to IIT conversion.
May be, we should post some comments for upgrading our institute and improving upon some of the existing processes in order to make them more student friendly.
I have serious concerns about atleast 3 processes at IT-BHU which I feel should be improved in the interests of the students.
1)The No-Dues process that each final year student has to undergo is really cumbersome, specially considering the extreme heat during the April period. I think it should rather be the responsibility of the different labs to prepare a defaulters list and then send it across to all the departments. This would eliminate the overhead.
2)The examination forms that we have to fill in each semester are again obsolete and time taking. We should simplify the whole process by asking the students to fill in just one form instead of three almost similar forms in each semester. Online submission of forms will be even a better idea but for the time being, we can atleast reduce the number of pages in the forms.
3)The registration process in each semester should be made online so that people can submit their semester fees using credit cards. There is already a remarkable improvement in this area as the fees is now being submitted in the individual departments rather than in the finance office.
More comments are welcome.
Best Regards,
Dheerendra
CSE-2003

hello,
i am a 3rd yr. student of MNNIT.I just gone through this Comments section and was fed up to see how the conversion to IIT issue has maddened the people who are vitiating the relations between the top notch engineering schools of the nation, who should be rather sanguine and constructive in their approach. I think it's with the government to decide(the IIT status). The wise should hope that whatever be the final decision, must happen in the true cause of the country's technical capital enhancement and it should not be seen as a prestige issue.
abhishek(B.Tech.,MNNIT)

The article in Central Chronicle has a typo. It should be IIIT instead of IIT. It was election promise made by PM around August 15 last year and fulfilled now. Also refer to Rajneesh's comment dated Sept 20 under the article ""Secondary treatment to itbhu" and the last lines in the article on yahoo website (http://in.news.yahoo.com/030815/43/26yur.html)

Yogesh Upadhyaya
Chemical Engineering 1977

Guys, Don't know how much credible is this information, but the link below says that two new IITs are being made. One in Jabalpur, another in Kanchipurum. Anyone having more info ?
http://www.centralchronicle.com/20040116/1601001.htm

To
alum@it.edu

itbhu as on may 2002 or few months previous to that, as far as I remember was ranked like that;
I shall again confirm and come back

Hi Anup,

Where did you get the information that ITBHU has been ranked 3rd by India Today ? Is there a new ranking out ? As far as I know, ITBHU was ranked 8th in last year (2003) India Today ranking.

Hi! Everybody...
It is nice to see so much activity and projects. I am pleasantly surprised. It is almost 26 years, when I graduated in Chemical Engineering and left itbhu in 1977. It is almost nostalgic.
I feel itbhu deserved to be the iit even before Roorkee.
Now let us hope things will take shape...
but it really doesn't matter as according to India Today survey, itbhu is second or third after Kanpur and Kharagpur.
We really need to give more of soft skills to our youngsters who are graduating and accordingly make changes in the curriculam as mentioned by Ravi Shankar. This is my observation also.
Bye and Best Wishes!

Anup Bagla
1977, Chemical

Hi,
I am Setlur Raja, B.Tech. Met. Engg. 1978., originally from Hyd, currently in Singapore.
email:rajasetlur@hotmail.com

Have read with interest many comments on this site.
1. There appear to be many organisations/informal groups which are working separately not knowing what the others are doing. Can I suggest that all alumni pass on their graduating & contact details to Prof BB Bansal, who is in-charge of Placement as well as Alumni affairs at BHUIT, so that a consolidated database can be made and put up on the Institute's offical website.
2. His contact details are:bbbansal@satyam.net.in
Mobile:9415221347, Resi: 0542-2368160, Off 0542-2316434, fax: 0542-2364162
3. The class of '78 had a silver jubilee re-union at Varanasi on 27th-28th Dec 2003 after a year of emailing and chatting. About 40 alumni incl some from US, Canada, Saudi, Thailand and S'pore came with their families. Prof Bansal and Prof Ghose had made excellent arrangements for visits to the Dept. and Hostels with khoa parathas incl. in the lunch menu one day and lavang latas the next day. A boat trip down the ganges, a visit to Sarnath and a cocktail+dinner at Taj Ganges made the event a memorable one.
There is a proposal that this could be held every year for the batch that has completed 25 years (e.g. 1979 batch in 2004 Dec.)
Proposals for contribution were also discussed and things are moving .
Any guy from any batch may contact me by email or if in S'pore on 65696386.
Good luck and Wish you all a Happy New Year

it doesnt matter whether u r from iit or nit ..when u join any software company there will be guys from all engineering college...dont waste time in discussing this topic ...work hard so that u can achieve ur aim ...best of luck ..

Hi all

Guys I am a student of NIT bhopal , i would like to clarify that some messages have been posted on your site by the name of NIT Bhopal too its almost unbelievable that someone from NIT bhopal has posted this ( i saw them just today ) believe me I am also as annoyed as u guys are , I think this is some mischievious act of a single frustrated guy who I suppose is in a worst NIT and is frustrated . More than that defaming good institutes like NITs which i accept are not of IIT/IT caliber but still are counted amoung some of the good colleges in the country.

But BHU has an international acceptablity and surely is gonna be the first IIT , pray that mine becomes one of those five.

Wishing all of u good luck.

Keep up ur spirits u guys are really doin a great job.

Kanika Oberoi
B.Tech ( Electrical Engg. NIT-Bhopal )

Abhijeet:

Due to confidentiality nature of the subject matter, no information shall be available on our website or from ITBHU administration, until it is officially announced by HRD ministry. For further details, read my comment on Sanjay Dani's article "Govt. forms a committe to setup IITs"

Yogesh Upadhyaya
Chemical Engineering 1977

Lets not give importance to these outsiders. We should continue our discussion. By the wat, is there any progress in the proceedings of the commitee.Some news related to that?

To all outsiders:

1)Please think before commenting on our website. This site is meant for our institute to promote our cause. We never try to compare our institute with NITs or other institutes. We would not mind if some outsider offers constructive criticism or promote the cause of their own institute. However, we shall be not be quiet if some one talks none-sense about our institute on our website. This is not a public bulletin board or Yahoo mail site. You cannot even logon to other institutes'website without proper ID and password. They will immediately remove outsider's comments and block his access to the website.

2)Someone feels offended, if called dude or moron. But what if a person who does not reveal his name or his institute (except NIT'an) and publishes fake media report such as '5 NITs to join IIT club'.

3) I support efforts by Chill, Raj and Pancham to give proper reply to those intruders. I also agree with Peacenik that most of the MNNIT students are disciplined. As stated earlier, they do not discuss IIT issue on their website. It appears that a handful of people having grudge against ITBHU are continuing their propaganda under different assumed names.

4) The correct fact about NITs joining IITs is as follows:

a) Most of NITs do not have their own website, hence they try to sneak into other websites.
b)Govt. is not considering (except perhaps NIT Warangal) NITs for converting into IITs.
c)IIT board is resisting govt. attempt to include NITs into JEE program.

This is not to say that NITs are not great institutes. This is only to suggest that outsiders shall be careful to post their comments on other institute's website. Please include your name and the name of your institute in the message.

Yogesh Upadhyaya
Chemical Engineering 1977

Hello friends,
I am a 3rd year student of MNNIT , Mech & have been following these posts for some time. Let me assure that these morons who associate themselves with MNNIT do not & cannot represent the real voice of MNNIT. As a fellow engg college we know how tough the march to excellence can be. This debate about conversion to IIT is something which every college has an opinion on but no vision. Were engg colleges set up to promote their brand equity - sell soap & powder or were they set up to impart quality education. I urge the students & alumni of IT-BHU to ignore these fits of frustration of outsiders. You guys believe in something & working towards it. Your efforts are laudable. May you succeed in your endeavours & help to improve the state of technical education throughot India. For every person who makes it to college (any college) there are thousands who don't see the insides of a primary school.

C u,
Baba.

NITians:
I cannot help but pity your atrocious attitude. Have you heard the tale of a bunch of frogs being shipped in an open container ? None of them escaped because the moment someone tried to do so, the others pulled him down.What you demonstrate by your posts on this web site is similar to the "leg pulling" attitude of the frogs.
Let me re-emphasize. We are not here to indulge in debates initiated by outsiders and bash other colleges (unless you provoke us to the limit
through some real sick comments). We, as alumni of IT-BHU are here for the betterment of our alma-mater and what we discuss here is our own
personal matter.
If you really want to present your case, do so through your respective alumni associations and through official channels. Your tart comments
like (quote-unquote):
" WILL KEEP U GUYS PESTERING IN THE FUTURE UNLESS U STOP MAKING A LOT OF
SHOUT OVER NIT>IIT CONVERSION"
">>>>>>any college but not IT BHU>>>>>b,coz UP doesnt deserve 3 IIT's
along with one NIT"
"i solely support mnnit,allahabad to be an iit and it will be soon that i will study in iit,allahabad"
speak for themselves. Least, they just go on to show how naive you are. Perhaps you are a current crop of students at NIT (X) effusing jingoism
in plenty. Cool down kids. This won't help. Instead of trying to bash IT-BHU, try to spend that time and energy to organize your own alumni to do something for your NIT.
Please refrain from posting unwarranted comments here and initiating flame wars in the future. You are just putting a bad name for your own college. Believe me, your alumni won't be proud of all these insane comments that you guys have made.

Thanks.

I have a lot of faith in the upper echelons of academicians some of who are the committe members.
Hopefully a good sense will prevail and no too much politics.

Not a little to these NIT dudes :

These NIT/REC guys ( at least the ones who are slamming it-bhu with thier inane arguments ) are regionalistic by the very nature of where they belong -- a "_Regional_" engineering college. They are selected on "regional" basis -- and so comments like "each state should have no more than one IIT" come naturally to them -- by dint of thier way of thinking which is promoted not only by the selection criterion of thier colleges but it is nurtered even after that.

To give you an example,in some RECs, even during the induction of freshers into college ( yes, an euphemism for ragging ! ) only seniors from the same district can greet ( rag ! ) freshers. In case of some of those colleges, where there are few "out-of-state" allotments only guys from that state are allowed to "rag" ...not to mention the violent way of treating thier freshers.

We, at IT-BHU can boast of a great culture of assimilation, regardless of where you come from.
It is in this induction period that I had made some very good friends -- and they all belong to a "state" that I dont belong to ...

so, IT-BHU guys, lets not get distracted by some of these imbeciles .... a while ago I read a comment from an MNIT guy saying .. "and soon I will be studying in an IIT" ... someone needs to tell this moron that as soon as he opens his mouth that every one will know that he is not the IIT material ..

Raj
.

I think its a good sign that these NIT guys are talking about us. No douubt they are all frustated and scared of our Great IT BHU who has actually build IITs in there early days of inception, it shows that our strategy of marketing IT BHU is working and people has started talking about that. So the next step is to convince Govt. of India which would not be difficult for us for obvious reasons. I also have come to know that the comittee has whole heartedly supported the conversion of IT BHU into IIT.
So cheers!!!!!

To: NIT'AN dude:

You have incorrect information. The govt. is setting up five IITs by converting existing institutions of excellence, not necessarily NITs.

The govt. has already set up a committee of five members, two of which are ex-BHU. ITBHU will be the first institute to be converted into an IIT.

Yogesh Upadhyaya
Chemical Engineering 1977

Unfortunate demise of Shri Satyendra Kumar Dubey (B.Tech. IITK-1994 M.Tech ITBHU)

The entire IITK Community is stunned by the unfortunate incident of assassination of Mr. Satyendra Kumar Dubey an alumnus of IIT Kanpur in Gaya, Bihar recently. He hailed from Bihar (village and P.O. Shahpur in Sivan District; the nearest railway station, Mairwa, is about 7 km from Shahpur). He was brutally killed in Gaya on November 27, 2003.

Mr. Dubey was born on March 11, 1973. He completed his undergraduate education (B.Tech. in Civil Engineering) in the year 1994 from IITK with a very high CPI, and thereafter joined the M.Tech. programme at IT, BHU. On successfully competing in Indian Engineering Services Examination, Mr.Dubey joined the Ministry of Surface Transportation in March 1996. At the time of unfortunate event, Mr.Dubey was serving as Manager (Technical) on deputation with the National Highway Authority of India. He was directly involved in executing the Golden Quadrilateral Highway Project as the Project Director, handling three stations namely, Gaya, Kodarma and Dhanbad, with Head Quarters at Kodarma.

Mr.Dubey was a thorough upright person who stood for transparency in social life. He was always there to accept any responsibility and carry out his duty honestly. He did not allow corrupt practices and damaging pressures to dominate the workplace, and refused to compromise with quality, consultants or contractors for any consideration. He made sure that the deliveries were made in the best possible form and quality.

Mr.Dubey's commitment to work and his dedication to the nation was 'total', and he had to pay a price for this and for fighting against corruption; Mr.Dubey was brutally killed when he blew the whistle. He was unmarried and has left behind his grieving mother, father, four sisters (two of whom are still studying) and a brother (who is also a student).

The IIT Kanpur alumni spread the world over, and the students, faculty and staff at IIT Kanpur have equally and forcefully condemned the brutal killing of Mr.Satyendra Kumar Dubey. They all deeply mourn the passing away of Mr.Satyendra Kumar Dubey. Emails expressing anguish and sorrow have been pouring in, in thousands.

In the condolence meeting held at IIT Kanpur on December 5, 2003 students, staff and faculty all expressed shock and profound grief over the death of Mr.Dubey for upholding the values of honesty, integrity and character enshrined in our society. The life of a young man who stood boldly for the cause of transparency in public life was snatched away from us in a brutal manner.

The following resolution was passed unanimously at the meeting.

1. A condolence letter will be sent to the family of Mr.Satyendra Dubey on behalf of IIT Kanpur family.
2. A fund raising committee will be formed to raise funds and help the needy family of Mr.Dubey.
3. A petition will be presented to the Hon. Prime Minister for ensuring a speedy justice.

The gathering authorized Director, IIT Kanpur to take appropriate steps in this regard. The meeting ended with Director requesting support from all members of IIT Kanpur.

In this hour of deep sorrow, the entire IITK Community, including the alumni, the students, the faculty and the staff have pledged to be with the bereaved family, and sustain the fight against corruption initiated by Mr.Dubey in an effective manner. In order to achieve the above, IIT Kanpur has established the 'Satyendra Kumar Dubey Memorial Fund' and announced a committee to coordinate the fund.

Read others messages for the grieved family or to pay homage to Shri Satyendra Kumar Dubey

Contact:
Prof. N.G.R. Iyengar,
Department of Aerospace Engineering,
IIT Kanpur
Email: ngri@iitk.ac.in

Sir,
As an student of IT-BHU who is involved in the issue of conferring IIT status, its my observation and request to all the Alumni and the present students that they must come forward and start rigorously to e-mail letters to different prominent Newspapers so that this may become a media and public issue and a debate may be started. This will make Mr. Joshi to feel that it will not be bed of roses to snatch the most legitimate right of IT-BHU in favour of Allahabad. Remember the most crucial hurdle is Mr.Joshi
As a member of the 5 students Team who have successfully organized the Rally for conferring IIT status I have learnt that the media hype over this issue can be the real gain we can get, as this will make it difficult for fulfilling his ambitions. This we had gained just after the Rally when Mr. Akhilesh Singh Yadav (MP), Son of Chief Minister of UP supported our cause and asked that even could meet him over this issue.
So its my request that please you people start writing letters to the newspapers stating how the achievements of IT-BHU are superior over any NIT and how politics must be kept aside while deciding the future course of the country.

ARVIND SINGH
2ND Electrical,
IT-BHU.

hey wats wrong with calling yourself itians...y do u all want to go for a change in name..being an ITian or IITian doesn't make any difference...wat actually counts is the culture which is there in your institute...i m not from ITBHU but i have been to BHU several times...One of the major problems of the institute is the lack of security there.Why doesn't IT work on it.
In time for girls is just 8:30 pm...how ridiculous!!!
If u want to work actually for the betterment of the institute then improve the security & safety conditions & remove such stupid rules.
Hope the authorities will look into it

Why you people can not try for IIT -BHU whereby it will also stand alphabetically above other IITs and not the last like IIT -v.Also this gives a good of both the worlds BHU and that of the IIT at the same time honours the cherished dresam of Malaviyaji

Why you people can not try for IIT -BHU whereby it will also stand alphabetically above other IITs and not the last like IIT -v.Also this gives a good of both the worlds BHU and that of the IIT at the same time honours the cherished dresam of Malaviyaji

Please help me.
I want to know what is the reputation of National singapore University in Corporate world.
I am a passout of 2002 year and willing to go for MBA.please mail me at abhijeet_1998@yahoo.com
Abhijeet

Hi,
Nice to see that various alumni organisations are coming together.

May I suggest that the IT BHU alumni have a single site and that AIBA can have its own section here like you all have for IIT / EVENTS or whatever would be the best way.

Surely coming together should project one common front.

regards,
Shiv Maurya